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Sunday, July 13, 2008

Re: [Shadeshi_Bondhu] Hi Shadeshi_Bondhu


As i am also from Ctg and heard about this doc. and her bad history though i don have ne prrof to give you ppl.
 
Akashii

 
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Sohel Chawdhury <sohelvbl@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Shadeshi Bandhur,

I want infrom to everybody about a Ladies doctor.

 

She is very Criminal Doctor,

Name: Dr. Lutfur Nahar (Koly)

Gainy Doctor of South Point Hospital

Agrabad Access Road, Chittagong.

 

She is woman killer,

Dear friends, I will inform you nex time, if you listen to me.

 

Pls reply me.

 

 

 

 


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Re: [Shadeshi_Bondhu] Vodrota!

to vodro chele, apnar porichoy ta ektu dile prito hoitam.. :)

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On 7/13/08, rodro.bristi <Rodro.Bristi@gmail.com> wrote:
BohuT vaBlam khuje ber korte parlam na!
Ami poripurnO, vodro, porinOto ekta chele! :O


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>
> We are human and each of us are mixed up with good & bad things.
Let us play
> a game. in just one sentence say one of  your bad things. please do
not
> write common things like 'i'm ugly' or 'i'm short' or 'i'm fat'. say
> something that not possible to know until you say. and no
duplication
> please.
>
> *my one bad thing is, i watch movies with loud volume.*
>
> Paglee
> (www.paglee.com is not my website)
>




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Re: [Shadeshi_Bondhu] Hi Shadeshi_Bondhu

Proof ki?

On 7/12/08, Sohel Chawdhury <sohelvbl@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Shadeshi Bandhur,

I want infrom to everybody about a Ladies doctor.

 

She is very Criminal Doctor,

Name: Dr. Lutfur Nahar (Koly)

Gainy Doctor of South Point Hospital

Agrabad Access Road, Chittagong.

 

She is woman killer,

Dear friends, I will inform you nex time, if you listen to me.

 

Pls reply me.

 

 

 

 


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Re: [Shadeshi_Bondhu] Lets Avoid Warcriminals Socially.


Priyo deshbashi

 

Amader deser srestho sontan Muktijoddhader lathi Merese rajakar der Posha kutta Shibir cadar. Gov ekhono Kono babostha neyni er biruddhe .amra Ki ei opoman Mukh Buje sojjo korbo ? ei Lathi o amader sadhinota, sarvoumotto,amader sohid der rokto r tag ke merese.

 

amra ki sobai ghore bose chitkar korbo ??

asen amra sobai mile Bikkhov misil kori ar sorasto upodesta ekhono kono step na neoar jonno or Podotag dabi kori. asole matin Nijei jamat er dalal. sse nije ekta boi likhse jekhane bangladesher sadhinota sarvomoutto ke opoman korse. Oi Beadob er bichar age korte hobe. amader ghore bose thakle cholbena. desh ta amaderi amrai jodi nischkrio thaki , ghore bose online e chitkar kori tobe Kivabe ki hobe ??

 

 

 

Amra er bichar chai.asun amra amader khov o dabi prokash kori  Sorasto Montronaloy er samen Bikkhov misil kore..

 

 

1.Sorasto Upodesta Matin er podotag dabi korte hobe. (Karon Matin Nijei er age boi likhese jate se bangladesher sadhinota sarvomoutto , 21 e February ke opoman koresilo.se nijei ekjon Juamat er pa chata Kutta )

2.Oi Noroposhur arrest dabi korte hobe

3. Jamat ke bangladesher rajnitite Nishiddho ghosona korte hobe & juddho oporadhider bichar korte hobe

 

         Apni ki raji  asen ?

 

 

 


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From: R@kiB <rakib.exe@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Shadeshi_Bondhu] Lets Avoid Warcriminals Socially.
To: Shadeshi_Bondhu@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 7:25 PM

mormantik ..
 
jatir jonno kolongko ..
 
amader vhobisshot ondhokar ...


 
On 7/12/08, Md.Hasibul Hassan <think_tank_habib@ yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Priyo deshbashi

 

http://www.facebook .com/video/ video.php? v=20017119225&oid=19201418744

ei Linktate dekha jabe ekjon Muktijoddhake rajakar ra lathi merese.

  Juddho Oporadher bichar ki hobe ?Kobe hobe ? juddho oporadhider ase worldwide connection & prochur taka .Bangaldesher moto doridro desher Gov er pokhe ki tader bichar kora somvob kina setao vebe dekhte hobe .tar por ase law er fak fokor. Mansuher jokhon Deale pith theke jay, sob adalot theke jokhon bichar na peye fire ase manush tokhon bicharer var Nijer hatei tule ney.
Ami onek law janina tobe jani law er onek fak fokor ase & bangladeshe Jamat er pa chata onek lok ase jara naki edr bichaer pothe badha.

    Asun amra Juddho oporadhider ke smajik bhabe Prottakhan kori"

somajer prottekti khetre amra oder prottakhan korbo.ora je institutioin er malik amra sekhane job korbona, oder sathe kono babsa nai, kono attiota nai, Juddho oporadhider ektai porichoy
'Ora Omanush, Ora Judho Oporadhi, oder prottakhan koro"

 

 

 best regards

 

   Habib





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Re: [Shadeshi_Bondhu] Lets Avoid Warcriminals Socially.

mormantik ..
 
jatir jonno kolongko ..
 
amader vhobisshot ondhokar ...


 
On 7/12/08, Md.Hasibul Hassan <think_tank_habib@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Priyo deshbashi

 

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=20017119225&oid=19201418744

ei Linktate dekha jabe ekjon Muktijoddhake rajakar ra lathi merese.

  Juddho Oporadher bichar ki hobe ?Kobe hobe ? juddho oporadhider ase worldwide connection & prochur taka .Bangaldesher moto doridro desher Gov er pokhe ki tader bichar kora somvob kina setao vebe dekhte hobe .tar por ase law er fak fokor. Mansuher jokhon Deale pith theke jay, sob adalot theke jokhon bichar na peye fire ase manush tokhon bicharer var Nijer hatei tule ney.
Ami onek law janina tobe jani law er onek fak fokor ase & bangladeshe Jamat er pa chata onek lok ase jara naki edr bichaer pothe badha.

    Asun amra Juddho oporadhider ke smajik bhabe Prottakhan kori"

somajer prottekti khetre amra oder prottakhan korbo.ora je institutioin er malik amra sekhane job korbona, oder sathe kono babsa nai, kono attiota nai, Juddho oporadhider ektai porichoy
'Ora Omanush, Ora Judho Oporadhi, oder prottakhan koro"

 

 

 best regards

 

   Habib





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Re: [Shadeshi_Bondhu] Re: New Topic - Boys vs. Girls

ahem ...
 
ei gula ki shuni ..whistling


 
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It's girls who makes us hardworking < My mom never let dad watching
TV in ta morning, dad is to help her :p Jodi na kore . . . :p >

Its girls for whom the resturant is still a great business :p




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Re: [Shadeshi_Bondhu] New Topic - Boys vs. Girls

purushbadi ...


 
On 7/12/08, Rayhan Mahmud <rayhan_mahmud007@yahoo.com> wrote:

Chelerai agie. Literature, Science sobkane cheleder adipotto....

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Subject: Re: [Shadeshi_Bondhu] New Topic - Boys vs. Girls
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Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 2:50 AM

ahem ...



On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Akashii Churii <9003.aj@gmail. com> wrote:

Boys are our big Shelter.



On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Mahamudul Hasan <mahamud_h@yahoo. com> wrote:

1. girls make us feel we r in love.....

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Subject: [Shadeshi_Bondhu] New Topic - Boys vs. Girls
To: "shadeshi_bondhu" <shadeshi_bondhu@ yahoogroups. com>
Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 12:18 AM


We do complain against boys and boys also complain against us. but let us do reverse. girls will say good points about boys and boys will say good points about girls. do not write too long mail. complete your good sentences in 3 lines.

1. Boys are best because they take care of their sisters.
2. fathers earn for the family and spends for them.

Paglee
(www.paglee.com is not my website)

 

 

 



 
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Re: [Shadeshi_Bondhu] Vodrota!

sishu, koishor, tarunno ... ei range er majhei the term 'chele' thake ...
poripurno i jodi hobe, tahole to term "Purush" bolte hoy ...
 


 
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BohuT vaBlam khuje ber korte parlam na!
Ami poripurnO, vodro, porinOto ekta chele! :O

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> We are human and each of us are mixed up with good & bad things.
Let us play
> a game. in just one sentence say one of your bad things. please do
not
> write common things like 'i'm ugly' or 'i'm short' or 'i'm fat'. say
> something that not possible to know until you say. and no
duplication
> please.
>
> *my one bad thing is, i watch movies with loud volume.*
>
> Paglee
> (www.paglee.com is not my website)
>




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Re: [Shadeshi_Bondhu] Re: New Topics----Need to Discuss

Plz mara jeona ..Samnei SB er get-together party ...  B-)
 
 


 
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:))

is it correct? Hashte hashte mara gelam!




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Re: [Shadeshi_Bondhu] Re: New Topics----Need to Discuss

Are you living in Dhaka??

Your Dhaka is the

dirtiest City in the World.

Here rubbishes are thrown here & there ..........

Peoples pass urine & poes there & here........

No body obveys the traffic rules...... ..

Traffic police.s do not follow the rules of traffic laws. collect tips from the transport drivers.. 

Seeing this seems that people living in Dhaka are quite quality less. & ignorance.

Is it not correct???

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:))

is it correct? Hashte hashte mara gelam!


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[Shadeshi_Bondhu] Re: Bad news in a very good story in the renewable energy sector in Bangladesh: A sp

Impressed! Forwarded!

<innovation_line@...> wrote:
>
> Bad news in a very good story in the renewable energy sector in
> Bangladesh: A specific proposal Its time to separate the lost souls
> from the engieering sector of Bangladesh and recycle. Send them to
the
> village to replace some of the cows for our farmers, if possible.
With
> two years of such community service, they will have hopefully regain
> their souls and will be ready serve their profession again. There
are
> some encouraging projects and movement in the policy level that is
going
> on in the energy sector of Bangladesh. It should however be pointed
out
> that things takes time to change, specifically in the energy
sector. So,
> its important to distinguish our everyday misery with electricity
and
> what should we expect in few years time. Its not possible to go
> through all the issues here, however, we would like to point out an
> important aspect of the problem and two implications. With the
> eminent success in this long neglected topic, the main culprits
(read:
> senior engineers e.g. chief engineers and policy making members in
> different power bodies such as PDB, REB, DESA, etc) are also sensing
> this. Its not surprising that they will sense the change in the
wind,
> they are also worried that their channels of earning money may
vanish
> soon. So it seems that they are doing two things: 1. They are
changing
> their talking points, they are starting two championing all the good
> things that could be done in the power sector and those of which
they
> have so far suppressed. You may ask whats wrong with that? They
could
> not support all the good ideas so far since there was not any
> environment. Now that things are changing in the policy level with
> governments active support for good changes, these engineers and
members
> of the different policy making boards are also getting on board,
that
> should be seen as a good thing - why should we incriminate them with
> reference to the past mistakes. To answer that we would point out
that
> the mistakes shouldn't go unrecognized and unaccounted for. Mistakes
> should be punished. Punishment can be creative in the sense that
they do
> not have to go to jail, but unless its not identified, what prevents
> that they won't do the same again? 2. But more important thing
is who
> will make sure that these technical and policy making leaderships
(who
> have presided over the biggest mess of our time), who makes sure
that
> they are not going to subotaging the whole thing? Off course they
are
> smart enough to reach on top, they will find their way to slow down
the
> progress and/or kill the whole thing. History of past 17 months
tells
> that for any person who are informed. You are not convinced? Let us
tell
> you two things to prove our point: (I). There is a talk in the
policy
> level about how to encourage the consumers to buy energy-saving
bulbs
> which has the potential to save about 500 MW electricity in the
grid.
> One proposal that are being talked about in the policy making level
to
> tie this encouragement project with the system loss of power. What
they
> are saying is people will not change to energy-saving bulbs because
many
> consumers are stealing the electricity and hence already paying
less.
> Their contention is that since consumers are already paying less,
they
> will not be motivated to change from conventional bulb to energy-
saving
> bulb. So, they are saying you have to stop the stealing (reduce
system
> loss) in order to make the energy-saving bulb adoption. So one of
the
> prescription is to tie this project with the billing of REB/DESA/
PDB and
> somehow achieve the goal in a very non-market and dubious way. On
the
> face of it, this may seem very intelligent. However, we would like
to
> point out that this is just another ploy to slow down the progress
> and/or kill the initiative. They are trying to tie the two problems
> (which are independently very complex) together and suggesting a
policy
> that is prescribing that you can not achieve the second goal
> (energy-saving bulb adoption) unless you achieve the first goal
(reduce
> system loss). Sounds great. We can solve the both problem, isn't
it?
> Think again! What they are actually might be trying is this: They
know
> how to kill any project that aims to reduce system loss. Its not
just
> possible given the economic framework. So, when they suggest the
policy
> they know that the first goal will not be achieve, so the second
goal
> will not also be achieved. However, what is the alternative that
we
> are suggesting? Its very plain. You have two problem and they are
> independently complex enough. Do not tie them together. Use a
market
> based mechanism to reduce the entry-cost of the consumers by either
> subsidizing the consumers or help reducing the production cost of
the
> energy-saving bulb. This will make sure the majority of the
consumers
> will switch to energy-saving bulb. A specific proposal will be to
> separate 1000 crore taka (a certain percentage of the installation
cost
> for a 500 MW power-plant) and use that money to encourage consumers
to
> switch. Government could employ agencies to replace any functioning
> traditional bulbs with a energy-saving bulb for free. Just make a
> program like OMS for a short period of time. That will create
awareness.
> Do it in all the areas where local government elections are
scheduled
> for next month. This will be a good project to see whether the
> candidates uses their time to demonstrate what kind of public office
> holder they will be. Once an awareness campaign is done
successfully,
> make those bulb available in the regular stores for the same price
of
> the traditional bulbs. Ban those bulbs, if you can. Force the local
> manufacturers or importers to switch, give them one time cash
incetives.
> That solves one problem - the second problem (energy-saving bulb
> adotpion). Majority of the consumers will switch. However, this
will
> also help solve the first problem, too (reduce system loss). How? As
> those dishonest consumers (who are stealing now with the help of
crooked
> engineers) will notice that electricity bills are going down. So,
there
> will be less incentive for stealing. And probably that is the big
fear
> of those cheif engineers and members of the policy making bodies
(public
> jodi valo hoye jai, tahle tu oder aar khana thakbe na). (II).
With
> certain kind of euphemism with the good success story in the
renewable
> energy in Bangladesh, the country is going in the right direction
with
> or without the help of the government policy-makers. This progress
is
> happening mostly in the private sectors and with the leadership
role of
> certain NGOs. While the culprits in the government agencies are
trying
> their best to kill or slow down the progress with instruments that
are
> within their reach, they are also ploying to kill the euphemism in
the
> market place. Want an example? Allow us to give one. They will often
> tell you that Bangladesh can't fully depend on the renewables, they
will
> give one example of Germany since they have the most advanced
policy in
> this renewable sector. So, the example that they cite is this:
Even
> Germany has a target to achieve 22% of renewable energy in the
grid. So,
> the implication is that we should not aim higher than that. But what
> they do not tell you is this: Germany's 22% is much higher than our
> total demand. What can you conclude from that? Any school going boy
will
> say that if Germany can aim to achieve 22% dependency on renewable
> energy, then we can achieve 100% dependency, isn't it? However,
those
> who understand the nature of load in the enegy grid, they will tell
you,
> theoretically we should not be aiming for 100%, but nothing
prevents one
> to aim for a renewable dependency of 85% in Bangladesh, given the
> current state of energy consumption. Off course, over time, as we
> develop, we may have to to reduce that load to about 50%. In other
> words, 50% renewable dependency is a very realistic, achievable and
> theoretically possible goal for Bangladesh to pursue. Now the
> quesiton is whether Dr. Tamim has the materials to understand that
and
> off course, whether he has the will-power to do what it takes to
remove
> the criminals from the policy making bodies in PDB, REB, DESA,
etc.
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BohuT vaBlam khuje ber korte parlam na!
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It's girls who makes us hardworking < My mom never let dad watching
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[Shadeshi_Bondhu] Bad news in a very good story in the renewable energy sector in Bangladesh: A sp

Bad news in a very good story in the renewable energy sector in Bangladesh: A specific proposal
Its time to separate the lost souls from the engieering sector of Bangladesh and recycle. Send them to the village to replace some of the cows for our farmers, if possible. With two years of such community service, they will have hopefully regain their souls and will be ready serve their profession again.
 
There are some encouraging projects and movement in the policy level that is going on in the energy sector of Bangladesh. It should however be pointed out that things takes time to change, specifically in the energy sector. So, its important to distinguish our everyday misery with electricity and what should we expect in few years time.
 
Its not possible to go through all the issues here, however, we would like to point out an important aspect of the problem and two implications.
 
With the eminent success in this long neglected topic, the main culprits (read: senior engineers e.g. chief engineers and policy making members in different power bodies such as PDB, REB, DESA, etc) are also sensing this. Its not surprising that they will sense the change in the wind, they are also worried that their channels of earning money may vanish soon. So it seems that they are doing two things:
 
1. They are changing their talking points, they are starting two championing all the good things that could be done in the power sector and those of which they have so far suppressed. You may ask whats wrong with that? They could not support all the good ideas so far since there was not any environment. Now that things are changing in the policy level with governments active support for good changes, these engineers and members of the different policy making boards are also getting on board, that should be seen as a good thing - why should we incriminate them with reference to the past mistakes. To answer that we would point out that the mistakes shouldn't go unrecognized and unaccounted for. Mistakes should be punished. Punishment can be creative in the sense that they do not have to go to jail, but unless its not identified, what prevents that they won't do the same again?
 
2. But more important thing is who will make sure that these technical and policy making leaderships (who have presided over the biggest mess of our time), who makes sure that they are not going to subotaging the whole thing? Off course they are smart enough to reach on top, they will find their way to slow down the progress and/or kill the whole thing. History of past 17 months tells that for any person who are informed. You are not convinced? Let us tell you two things to prove our point:
 
(I). There is a talk in the policy level about how to encourage the consumers to buy energy-saving bulbs which has the potential to save about 500 MW electricity in the grid. One proposal that are being talked about in the policy making level to tie this encouragement project with the system loss of power. What they are saying is people will not change to energy-saving bulbs because many consumers are stealing the electricity and hence already paying less. Their contention is that since consumers are already paying less, they will not be motivated to change from conventional bulb to energy-saving bulb. So, they are saying you have to stop the stealing (reduce system loss) in order to make the energy-saving bulb adoption. So one of the prescription is to tie this project with the billing of REB/DESA/PDB and somehow achieve the goal in a very non-market and dubious way.
 
On the face of it, this may seem very intelligent. However, we would like to point out that this is just another ploy to slow down the progress and/or kill the initiative. They are trying to tie the two problems (which are independently very complex) together and suggesting a policy that is prescribing that you can not achieve the second goal (energy-saving bulb adoption) unless you achieve the first goal (reduce system loss). Sounds great. We can solve the both problem, isn't it?
 
Think again! What they are actually might be trying is this: They know how to kill any project that aims to reduce system loss. Its not just possible given the economic framework. So, when they suggest the policy they know that the first goal will not be achieve, so the second goal will not also be achieved.
 
However, what is the alternative that we are suggesting? Its very plain. You have two problem and they are independently complex enough. Do not tie them together.
 
Use a market based mechanism to reduce the entry-cost of the consumers by either subsidizing the consumers or help reducing the production cost of the energy-saving bulb. This will make sure the majority of the consumers will switch to energy-saving bulb. A specific proposal will be to separate 1000 crore taka (a certain percentage of the installation cost for a 500 MW power-plant) and use that money to encourage consumers to switch. Government could employ agencies to replace any functioning traditional bulbs with a energy-saving bulb for free. Just make a program like OMS for a short period of time. That will create awareness. Do it in all the areas where local government elections are scheduled for next month. This will be a good project to see whether the candidates uses their time to demonstrate what kind of public office holder they will be.
 
Once an awareness campaign is done successfully, make those bulb available in the regular stores for the same price of the traditional bulbs. Ban those bulbs, if you can. Force the local manufacturers or importers to switch, give them one time cash incetives.
 
That solves one problem - the second problem (energy-saving bulb adotpion). Majority of the consumers will switch.
 
However, this will also help solve the first problem, too (reduce system loss). How? As those dishonest consumers (who are stealing now with the help of crooked engineers) will notice that electricity bills are going down. So, there will be less incentive for stealing. And probably that is the big fear of those cheif engineers and members of the policy making bodies (public jodi valo hoye jai, tahle tu oder aar khana thakbe na).
 
(II). With certain kind of euphemism with the good success story in the renewable energy in Bangladesh, the country is going in the right direction with or without the help of the government policy-makers. This progress is happening mostly in the private sectors and with the leadership role of certain NGOs. While the culprits in the government agencies are trying their best to kill or slow down the progress with instruments that are within their reach, they are also ploying to kill the euphemism in the market place. Want an example? Allow us to give one. They will often tell you that Bangladesh can't fully depend on the renewables, they will give one example of Germany since they have the most advanced policy in this renewable sector.
 
So, the example that they cite is this: Even Germany has a target to achieve 22% of renewable energy in the grid. So, the implication is that we should not aim higher than that. But what they do not tell you is this: Germany's 22% is much higher than our total demand. What can you conclude from that? Any school going boy will say that if Germany can aim to achieve 22% dependency on renewable energy, then we can achieve 100% dependency, isn't it?  However, those who understand the nature of load in the enegy grid, they will tell you, theoretically we should not be aiming for 100%, but nothing prevents one to aim for a renewable dependency of 85% in Bangladesh, given the current state of energy consumption. Off course, over time, as we develop, we may have to to reduce that load to about 50%. In other words, 50% renewable dependency is a very realistic, achievable and theoretically possible goal for Bangladesh to pursue.
 
Now the quesiton is whether Dr. Tamim has the materials to understand that and off course, whether he has the will-power to do what it takes to remove the criminals from the policy making bodies in PDB, REB, DESA, etc.
 
Only time will answer that question.
 
If you thought some of the ideas are worth of your reading time, please forward it to others. If you have an ear to the columnists in regular traditional media, please forward it to them. If you have an ear to the journalists and news editors of the electronic media, discuss it with them. Hope they would look at the suggestions and give due diligence. 
 
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Re: [Shadeshi_Bondhu] Arham Needs Your Help

akashii api, if you expect the people will go to bank and deposit, that is not easy. people are busy. they don't have enough time for such. so, it is always needed that someone needs to go to door to door and collect.specially when there is not tv or media coverage. i thought, as you are close to patient, you would take the responsibility.

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On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Akashii Churii <9003.aj@gmail.com> wrote:

It will be good if you people send the help directly to saying account.



On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:21 AM, Paglee <paglee.girl@gmail.com> wrote:

that means, if any of us deposit to you, you can send those money to arham's family.



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On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Akashii Churii <9003.aj@gmail.com> wrote:

I know personally, tht is why i really want to help this boy. We can really do some quality work by this. Whats say!



On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Paglee <paglee.girl@gmail.com> wrote:

api, do you know this boy and his family closely or just came to know from a forwarded mail?

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On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Akashii Churii <9003.aj@gmail.com> wrote:

If we could do something for this Angel.
 
Please visit the webpage  & try to help Arham to save his life.

Your little contribution can save Arham's life.

http://arham.webnode.com/

 

 

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